{"id":742,"date":"2015-10-12T13:09:55","date_gmt":"2015-10-12T18:09:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/?p=742"},"modified":"2015-10-21T01:49:00","modified_gmt":"2015-10-21T06:49:00","slug":"big-12-review-baylor-beats-kansas-big-deal-tcu-and-okla-state-show-guts-tech-continues-to-improve-ou-stumbles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/?p=742","title":{"rendered":"Big 12 Review:  Baylor Beats Kansas, Big deal; TCU and Okla. State show guts; Tech continues to improve; OU Stumbles"},"content":{"rendered":"<h6><\/h6>\n<p>Above Photo:\u00a0 West Virginia running back Wendell Smallwood (4) loses the football while being tackled by Oklahoma State linebacker Chad Whitener (45) during the first half of an NCAA college football game, Saturday, Oct. 10, 2015, in Morgantown, W.Va. (AP Photo\/Raymond Thompson)<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_760\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-760\" style=\"width: 650px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/baylor-kansas-footbal_dull1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-760\" src=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/baylor-kansas-footbal_dull1.jpg\" alt=\"Baylor tight end LaQuan McGowan (80) gets past Kansas safety Michael Glatczak (39) to score a touchdown during the first half of an NCAA college football game Saturday, Oct. 10, 2015, in Lawrence, Kan. (AP Photo\/Charlie Riedel)\" width=\"650\" height=\"573\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/baylor-kansas-footbal_dull1.jpg 650w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/baylor-kansas-footbal_dull1-300x264.jpg 300w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/baylor-kansas-footbal_dull1-357x315.jpg 357w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/baylor-kansas-footbal_dull1-68x60.jpg 68w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-760\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Baylor tight end LaQuan McGowan (80) gets past Kansas safety Michael Glatczak (39) to score a touchdown during the first half of an NCAA college football game Saturday, Oct. 10, 2015, in Lawrence, Kan. (AP Photo\/Charlie Riedel)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Baylor #1?\u00a0 Maybe they are the best team in the land. But with what they have faced this year in college football you won&#8217;t see me putting the Bears in the top spot in the country. In fact, if they win out, there might not be any love lost on them when the final four are picked.\u00a0 They have played so many crappy teams that an undefeated season might not get them in even over a one loss team from another conference.\u00a0 When it is all said and done, wins over Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and even TCU may not be impressive enough.\u00a0 The Bears need to hope that OSU or TCU only lose one game, to them.\u00a0 A r\u00e9sum\u00e9 with wins over their poor non-conference schedule could do them in again.\u00a0 Someone in Waco needs to look at games against Lamar, SMU, and the Sisters of Mary of the Plains (I won&#8217;t mention that other lower Division team).\u00a0 And I don&#8217;t even know if Coach Art Briles has scheduled the Sisters but given a chance, I\u00a0 am sure he would.\u00a0 And the kicker?\u00a0 Baylor &#8220;MIGHT&#8221; be the best in the country.\u00a0 <\/span><\/h6>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/ff0e9d291304db2521e8341c7aa90eb9.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-764\" src=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/ff0e9d291304db2521e8341c7aa90eb9.jpg\" alt=\"ff0e9d291304db2521e8341c7aa90eb9\" width=\"236\" height=\"236\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/ff0e9d291304db2521e8341c7aa90eb9.jpg 236w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/ff0e9d291304db2521e8341c7aa90eb9-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/ff0e9d291304db2521e8341c7aa90eb9-60x60.jpg 60w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 236px) 100vw, 236px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h6><em><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Lets\u00a0revisit history-1971, Big 8 Conference-the Oklahoma Sooners (why OU in 71?\u00a0 They had the greatest running offense in the history of college football, ever.\u00a0 Some say that this Baylor team might be the best offense ever, run or pass, and they might be.<\/span>\u00a0 OU <span style=\"color: #000080;\">started off with a win at home over SMU, a 30-0 blanking by the Sooners.\u00a0 OU was\u00a0rated #10 pre-season. That win followed with a 55-29 win at Pittsburgh&#8230;&#8230;not a Lamar or some lower division team like Baylor likes to schedule, but a major college team Pittsburgh Panthers.\u00a0 In week three in Norman, OU, now #8,\u00a0entertained #17 USC, a true power of the day, anyday. OU takes the Trojans out 33-20 as USC has no clue in stopping the wishbone.\u00a0 The 2nd Saturday of October comes\u00a0and in\u00a0the Cotton Bowl OU is still #8 and Texas is undefeated and ranked #3.\u00a0 Sooners maul the Horns 48-27 as UT, <\/span><\/em><span style=\"color: #3a2052;\"><em><strong><span style=\"color: #000080;\">who knows how to stop a wishbone, can&#8217;t.\u00a0 Sooners move up to #2 to play Colorado in Norman the following week in Norman as the Buffs are also without a loss and ranked #6. Sooner rout the Buffalos 45-17.\u00a0 The win puts OU at 5-0 with wins over top flight competition, including three Top 20 teams.\u00a0 Now compare that with what Baylor has accomplished this year.\u00a0 Deserve your rank?\u00a0 Is that something new?\u00a0\u00a0 Baylor has done nothing this year of note.\u00a0 In time they will, but right now? No. The Sooners went on to finish 2nd in 1971 to Nebraska (loss in the Game of the Century) and a win in the Sugar Bowl over #5 Auburn) secured that spot in the final rankings. Colorado finished 3rd in the nation that year, with OU second and Nebraska the National Champs. The greatest year for one conference in college football history. Compare OU&#8217;s 1971 schedule and Baylor&#8217;s 2015 schedule.\u00a0 The Bears are good, but they, in my opinion, are fakes when it comes to playing big boy football. Now what was that big BCS win Baylor had in their history? Oh.<\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/h6>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Baylor played something called Kansas this past Saturday. Kansas needs to re-examine its football program.\u00a0 Give me Emporia State down the road and I might just give Emporia State 7 and pick them.\u00a0 Baylor&#8217;s run rule on the Jayhawks was not good for Big 12 football,\u00a0 as it could be one of many games that keep an undefeated Bear bunch in 5th in the Committee&#8217;s vote.\u00a0 Give me a vote and I sure wouldn&#8217;t give BU any credit for that win.\u00a0 Maybe I&#8217;d take the Sister&#8217;s over KU too.<\/span><\/h6>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">Oklahoma State&#8217;s Mike Gundy has been my coach of the year for the first part of the season.\u00a0 When you win consistency in the last few minutes (seconds), you have a team that is together, and know what it takes to pull off the W.\u00a0 It&#8217;s no mistake\u00a0that Gundy has played it close to the vest to get OSU in line to win these games. Against a game West Virginia, it took a 4th down rush by JW Walsh to put the Pokes up in OT and allow the defense (best in the Big 12) to shut the Mountaineers down on their OT try. Gundy\u00a0skipped\u00a0a field goal to score the 6 and that has been the most aggressive call for him this year.\u00a0 He did it at the right time.\u00a0 Going for\u00a0another field goal earlier in the game down deep in West Virginia territory was also key.\u00a0 Three points in a defensive game is always a go.\u00a0 Never discount 3 when you could come up fresh out.\u00a0 A lesson learned by the best of coaches.<\/span><\/h6>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_768\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-768\" style=\"width: 960px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/1010-TCU-KState-18.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-768 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/1010-TCU-KState-18.jpg\" alt=\"1010 TCU KState 18\" width=\"960\" height=\"656\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/1010-TCU-KState-18.jpg 960w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/1010-TCU-KState-18-300x205.jpg 300w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/1010-TCU-KState-18-461x315.jpg 461w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/1010-TCU-KState-18-88x60.jpg 88w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-768\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">TCU Horned Frogs quarterback Trevone Boykin (2) leads K-State defenders in to the endzone on his 69-yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter. The Texas Christian Horned Frogs beat the Kansas State Wildcats 52-45 in Mahattan, Kansas, Saturday, October 10, 2015. Paul Moseley Read more here: http:\/\/www.star-telegram.com\/sports\/nfl\/article38728506.html#storylink=cpy<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #800080;\"><strong>I took some flack picking Kansas State to upset TCU. Close but no cigar. But I am sure a lot of my TCU friends were sweating bullets Saturday night.\u00a0 Again, a masterful game plan by Coach Snyder, but K-State is a player short on defense.\u00a0 As for TCU, the determination to pull it out was magnificent.\u00a0 TCU is a winner and I will give credit where credit is due. Patterson, your kids played with emotion in that second half and\u00a0 your talent, even if it is a lot of reserves that are having to play on defense, is better than good.\u00a0 The Frogs are going to tougher places later on (Stillwater, Norman) but I will have reservations picking against that offense. With Baylor, the numbers will be staggering, and even with a somewhat giving defense, it&#8217;s a pick&#8217;em right now<\/strong>.<\/span><\/h6>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_769\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-769\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/TEXAS_TECH_IOWA_FOOTBALL_33693193.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-769 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/TEXAS_TECH_IOWA_FOOTBALL_33693193-1024x630.jpg\" alt=\"Texas Tech's Jace Amaro (22) gets by Iowa State's Deon Broomfield (26) and Jeremiah George (52) during their NCAA college football game in Lubbock, Texas, Saturday, Oct. 12, 2013. (AP Photo\/Lubbock Avalanche-Journal, Stephen Spillman)\" width=\"640\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/TEXAS_TECH_IOWA_FOOTBALL_33693193.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/TEXAS_TECH_IOWA_FOOTBALL_33693193-300x185.jpg 300w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/TEXAS_TECH_IOWA_FOOTBALL_33693193-512x315.jpg 512w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/TEXAS_TECH_IOWA_FOOTBALL_33693193-98x60.jpg 98w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-769\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Texas Tech&#8217;s Jace Amaro (22) gets by Iowa State&#8217;s Deon Broomfield (26) and Jeremiah George (52) during their NCAA college football game in Lubbock, Texas, Saturday, Oct. 12, 2013. (AP Photo\/Lubbock Avalanche-Journal, Stephen Spillman)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Texas Tech&#8217;s Pat Mahomes is the best quarterback that is not on anyone&#8217;s radar.\u00a0Tech&#8217;s rout over Iowa State\u00a0showed he is the real deal. Kingsbury has that offense going and any team going into Lubbock will have\u00a0 a fight on their hands.\u00a0 Okie State and Tech in Lubbock will be one hell-of-a-game. Can&#8217;t wait.<\/span><\/h6>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #ff9900;\">From a previous post my take on OU\/Texas:\u00a0 <\/span><strong><span style=\"color: #ff9900;\">I didn\u2019t see it coming (UT\u2019s win over OU, I had OU in a rout).\u00a0 But after thinking about today\u2019s game in the Cotton Bowl, I can look back and say what I watched was not surprising.\u00a0 Texas, a\u00a01-4 football team, was markedly better on this day, dominating in both lines, offense and\u00a0defense, with an added component that the\u00a0coaching staff in Austin did the better job in preparing for this classic confrontation.\u00a0\u00a0Texas wins\u00a024-17 and\u00a0Coach Strong\u00a0needed this win\u00a0as much as\u00a0any he will coach in his career.\u00a0<\/span> <\/strong><\/h6>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_753\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-753\" style=\"width: 760px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/56197b4cb91e4.image_1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-753 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/56197b4cb91e4.image_1.jpg\" alt=\"56197b4cb91e4.image\" width=\"760\" height=\"507\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/56197b4cb91e4.image_1.jpg 760w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/56197b4cb91e4.image_1-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/56197b4cb91e4.image_1-472x315.jpg 472w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/56197b4cb91e4.image_1-90x60.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 760px) 100vw, 760px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-753\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oklahoma&#8217;s Matt Romar and Eric Striker tackle Texas&#8217; Jonathan Gray during the NCAA football game between the Oklahoma Sooners and the Texas Longhorns at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas, Texas on Saturday, October 10, 2015. IAN MAULE\/Tulsa World<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h6><span style=\"color: #ff9900;\"><strong>Texas rushed 313 yards in their one dimensional offense.\u00a0 OU\u2019s defense did what they could, stopping UT on various possessions, but that was expected from an undefeated Sooner team.\u00a0 But when it was needed the Horns got the plays that were enough to frost OU.\u00a0\u00a0 Sooner Baker Mayfield\u2019s (QB)\u00a0play was\u00a0as good as possible running from\u00a0for his\u00a0life (sacked 6 times) but UT\u2019s freshman quarterback Jerrod Heard\u2019s mistake free play and general gamesmanship were what Texas needed. No turnovers, no egregious mistakes this day.\u00a0 \u00a0D\u2019Onta Foreman\u2019s 81 yard run in the 3rd was a backbreaker as Texas held their14-3 lead and never allowed OU to catch up. In the final analysis, OU wasn\u2019t as good as many thought and Texas is better than many thought, and line play is a difference on many occasion<\/strong><\/span><\/h6>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_756\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-756\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/NS_10TEXASOU70SP_46588753.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-756 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/NS_10TEXASOU70SP_46588753-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"NS_10TEXASOU70SP_46588753\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/NS_10TEXASOU70SP_46588753-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/NS_10TEXASOU70SP_46588753-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/NS_10TEXASOU70SP_46588753-472x315.jpg 472w, https:\/\/fredsportsextra.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/NS_10TEXASOU70SP_46588753-90x60.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-756\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bob Stoops (Photo: Dallas Morning News)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h5>My Big 12 rankings<\/h5>\n<ol>\n<li>\n<h6>TCU<\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6>Baylor<\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6>Oklahoma State<\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6>Kansas State<\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6>Oklahoma<\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6>Texas Tech<\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6>West Virginia<\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6>Texas<\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6>Iowa State<\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6>Kansas<\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h6>Remarks:\u00a0 Won&#8217;t rank Texas higher as they have 4 losses and more to come. Sooners have a tough schedule of games and need to win their home games to stay afloat.\u00a0 TCU comes to mind. Tech is a &#8220;B&#8221; in Lubbock. TCU and Baylor will settle it on the field but don&#8217;t believe it is a given they won&#8217;t lose another Big 12 game. I think the Big 12 Champ will have at least one loss, maybe two. Okla. State has a leg up with two road wins in <span style=\"color: #000000;\">conference and that is significant.\u00a0 They could lose at Tech and still get a piece of the Championship because they get OU, Baylor and TCU in Stillwater. When you have the best defense in the league it gives you a chance against those three. Right now, they would be favored over OU, a pick&#8217;em with the Frogs, and a touchdown to 10 point dog to Baylor.\u00a0 My opinion, the Pokes will not be easy to beat in at home and I am sure Briles remembered what happened a couple year ago on the road at OSU with that undefeated Baylor team.\u00a0 West Virginia will have a big win down the road. They are an excellent team still trying to limit mistakes. They will.\u00a0 Forget ISU and KU.\u00a0 Kansas State will give OU all they want Saturday and if OU doesn&#8217;t get their head out of the sand the Wildcats win and it won&#8217;t be an upset if you want my uneducated opinion.<\/span><\/h6>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p id=\"pvc_stats_742\" class=\"pvc_stats all  \" data-element-id=\"742\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" focusable=\"false\" data-prefix=\"far\" data-icon=\"chart-bar\" role=\"img\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 512 512\" class=\"svg-inline--fa fa-chart-bar fa-w-16 fa-2x\"><path fill=\"currentColor\" d=\"M396.8 352h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V108.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v230.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zm-192 0h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V140.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v198.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zm96 0h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 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